FACULTY OF HEALTH SCIENCES, McMaster University

Kevin's McMaster Medicine Page

Updated Feb. 18/2000

Table of Contents

Section 1 - Questions about 2nd year and selecting rotations

Section 2 - Reviews of various sites

 

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Q.  When should I do my Family Medicine Rotation?

A.  As always, this is an opinion.

Generally, the major determinant of when you wish to do family medicine is whether you wish to do a PGY-3 year or apply to one.   If so, it might be a good idea to stack your electives early so you can do power electives and get "good" references if there is such a thing.  It is probably not critical but please realize that most PGY-3 spots at McMaster are determined by December/January and so (like the Carms nightmare) you need references, applications and resumes by September.

Otherwise, 2nd year at Mac is a breeze.  Other than a 2 month stint of in-house call (Internal Medicine), you have no hard call.  In fact, you do 6 months of family medicine and unless you have the (mis)fortune of selecting a gung-ho, workaholic preceptor; you will get off relatively unscathed.

Add an addtional 3 months of selectives/electives and you can see why PGY-2 family residents have gym memberships, play hockey, visit significant others/live in other cities!!!

Finally, let me be perfectly honest.  I found that my learning in 2nd year was mostly independent at the family medicine level.  Indeed, the PGY-2 at MUMC FPU is the workhorse of the team (although this may change if the staff start having more clinical days).  Having said that, I felt ready for the task and I can't think of too many people that I killed in the last little bit so that must be good - right?

 

Q. I don't know what electives/selectives I'm doing?

A.  Relax guy!  Unless you start with your elective in July, you don't really need to know what electives you'll be doing.  Just put some ideas of what you might be interested in on the application.  The program doesn't set it up for you anyways so they are interested for academic reasons for the most part.

I wouldn't recommend it, but you can even set up your elective 1 week in advance (like I had to when a pre-set one fell through).  It is certainly NOT rocket science.

 

Q.  What if I change my mind about an elective?

A.  NOT a problem.  Just let your elective supervisor that you're going to bail on know (out of courtesy - or not if you truly hate him/her) and set up a new one.  The Dep. of Family Medicine should be informed when you have things settled simply because they need to send a list of your rotations to the ministry.  You know, the guys that are paying our salaries.

 

Q. What if I don't know which community doc I want to work with?

A.  Well, here is a dilemma.  The program will try to set up your community family medicine rotation for you so they need a bit of time to do this.  Having said that, they didn't set mine up until April/May so you can probably change your mind and select other people in the interim.  If there is somebody you definitely want to work with though, get in there early.

Confidentially, I did not select which community docs I wanted to work with until March.

 

Q.  Do you have a list of the community doc's I can choose?

A.  Actually, Pearl Dodd just gave me a complete list of the community docs.  This is the same booklet as they send out to you in your second year.  You can find the list on the web at the following address.

CLICK HERE

 

Q.  Do you know of an accountant that specializes in MD/resident accounting/taxes?

A. The name of the accountant who comes to Mac to give us an incredible talk is Marnie Mackay.  I have her pamphlet/talk posted at:

        http://mcmaster.cjb.net

I believe her phone number is on the scanned brochure pages I put up.

Personally, I use an accountant up in Markham.  His name is Timothy Chiu and he does a fair number of MD tax returns/accounting up in the Toronto region.  He came recommended from my family doctor.

Generally, expect to pay $150-200 for a professionally prepared single return if your tax details are fairly simple (ie: PGY1 - salaried). 

QUICK TIPS: 

- your PGY-1 year taxable earnings is roughly 13,000-16,000  which means you are in the 17% tax bracket.  That means you might want to delay claiming RRSP contributions so you get a bigger bang for the buck

- your tuition, some application fees, license/car, loan interest, etc... are tax deductible (refer to brochure)

 

 

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Q. Do you have any suggestions of good places in Hamilton or Burlington for electives or the community based family practice rotation?

As for selecting the community rotations, they should have given you a
brochure/listing with the package that came with your 2nd year's selection
of rotations.

I am still trying to accumulate elective/community rotation evaluations but
here is the stuff I've done so far:


Dr. Preston Zuliani (Family, St. Catherines) - An excellent and efficient office practice, Zuliani's big claim to fame is that he is the poster boy for MacMedical and it is GOOD.  Located in St. Catherines, this entails a 30 min drive to his office from Hamilton but it's worthwhile to go even if it's just to look at the computerized records.   He is very resident friendly and does a bit of Worker's Comp. work as well.  His office is shared with Zuliani Jr., a chiropractor.

Milton ER (Dr. Chan) - I worked primarily with Dr. Chan in Milton's ER as well as a couple of days in Oakville ER.  Milton has a town complement of 17 GPs, 2 surgeons, a handful of specialties and an obstetrician.  It is a fairly relaxing place to work and most of the ER visits really are primary care in
nature.  However, it is incredibly nice to work in a place that is not constantly being squeezed by the Ministry of Health.  You don't get that drowning, overwhelmed feeling that you have at the major Hamilton Hospitals.


Conversely, don't expect high yield learning though as the number of internal medicine/"interesting" cases are low.  However, it really is worth going just to see if you want to do ER/work in a smaller community.  I must say that it was as good as you wished.  I got to do an L.P., assist in a pediatric appendectomy, manage MI/unstable angina and cast fractures (snowboarders - what can I say?).

One concern is that they scheduled me for 40 hours + half days / week. Although this is not something to complain about, it may be a little heavy for an elective.  HOWEVER, I am sure that you can negotiate a more standard work-week as Dr. Chan is an incredibly nice and accomodating man.

How nice, well, I contacted him to set up this elective 1 week before I was
to start. (Primarily because my original elective fell through).


Dr. Holt Turner (Family, Dundas) - You can't get much closer to Hamilton than Dundas, just past the university, Holt's office is roughly 10 min. west of MUMC hospital.  I did my 2 month community rotation there and had a blast.  Typical days included 9-5 pm with Tues. am's off.  I did not do call and there was no obstetrics required of us.  He works with 3 other female physicians and they work at a very relaxed pace of 4 patients/hour.

He uses a computerized record system, (Purkinje) which is the same system used at North Hamilton and is part of the COMPETE research project spearheaded by Dr. Anne Holbrook at St. Joe's Hospital.  He also takes on clerks and his knowledge is good and up to date.  He attributes this to the fact that the clerks/residents coming through often challenge him but whatever the reason, I did not find any significant faults with his practice pattern.

It's a friendly laid back site and if you are looking at setting up shop in the region, Dundas NEEDS docs and it has a good demographic population. 

Dr. D. Rosenthal (Dermatology, Hamilton) - Don does 1/2 day derm clinics at McMaster FPU 1-2x / month but he also does clinics/consultations the rest of the time as well.  He is an excellent teacher and has an incredible sense of humour.  I seriously suspect that he would do well as a comedian in another life...  But them's the breaks.  I would NOT hesitate at all in recommending Dr. Rosenthal for a derm elective but be forewarned, book him MONTHS in advance.  He's that good of a teacher/clinician.

 

From other reviewers

 

Dr. A. Byrne (Surgery, Oakville) - I did an elective in surgery with Dr. A. Byrne in Oakville. He was fantastic. His lumps and bumps clinic is thrusday afternoon, however, and it was unfortunate to miss out on this. The anesthetists in the hospital were pretty good about letting me intubate our cases. Call was once a week and one weekend a month. It was home call (even from Hamilton).

                                                                                            - Kargel

 

Collingwood - I'm currently doing my 2 month community block in Collingwood and would highly recommend it!  Great example of what GP's do outside of "the city". Although the area is not underserviced the people here are keen to have residents.

Dr. D. Levy (Sports Med, Hamilton) - My first elective  was sports medicine with David Levy - for those with the objective to improve their MSK skills and see common msk injuries and develop an approach to diagnosis and treatment a month in this is excellent. Opportunities for 1/2day with an orthopedic surgeon too.  Learning joint injections is available too based on cases - if one wants to do these they have to be persistent.

Dr. Margolis (Peds, Hamilton) -   Great opportunity to see common referral peds, with minimal primary care stuff.  Great office to work in.  Get to do all consults.

Grimsby ER (Dr. Stobbe, Grimsby) -Of anyone is interested in rural ER in a small community a 1/2h away run by family doctors I would recommend getting in contact with Dr. Karl Stobbe in
Grimbsy - West Lincoln Hospital.

I would say the most important thing about electives is trying to find what
you want to do, what you are weak in - then who is good.

In my history at McMaster I would suggests the below as good teachers:
Michele Gagnon - geriatrics
Moyez Ladhani - peds
Ross Penny - infectious diseases
Denise Marshall - palliative care, West Lincoln Hospital, Grimbsy
Karl Stobbe - rural family med and er

                                                                               -DeSantis

Dr. Onlock (Family Medicine, Barrie) -   I just got back from my two
months and I had a blast.  I worked in a family practice office with two
family docs- a third will be joining them before next year.  They were
both extremely nice.  Dr Steve Onlock works 1/2-2/3 time in the office
and approx. 2 shifts per week in ER.  He is also heading up a new
critical care clinic which will be opening at the same site as the
family practice office in April.  Dr. Kim Olynyk works part time in the
office and spends one day a week assisting an OB/GYN in the OR.  I worked
with both of them and basically got to design my schedule based on what
interested me most.  They are also very open to residents spending days
or 1/2 days with local specialists, chiropractors, or whatever you want. 
They were extremely down to earth and spent a great deal of time
teaching me about billing, and the business side of medicine.  The
hospital is practically brand new and the nicest hospital I think I've
ever been in.  The specialists I came in contact with were all very
friendly, and the backup in ER was great.  CT scans at 2am no problem!  I
would highly recommend this elective to anyone

                                                                                   - Ferguson